DYSMORPHOPHOBIA (?body odor) ---------------------------------------------------------- I have a young female patient (30) who complains of a ten year history of body odor without hyperhidrosis. She is healthy except for "fatigue" and has no discernable odor to me or my assistant raising the probability of a psychiatric component. Any one had this type of case? Jay Barnett, MD --------------- Sounds like a monosymptomatic delusion. I had a patient with delusion of body odor do well on Orap a few years ago [same as delusions of parasitosis], but my current favorite is Risperdal {Janssen, risperidone} 1-2 mg hs - works as well as Orap but less sedating and less likely to cause dystonic reactions. KC Smith MD FRCPC Niagara Falls ON ---------------- I think we all see these types of cases and it's a question of dysmorphophobia, which is more of a description of the behavior than a psychiatric diagnosis. I tend to treat them like I do my patients with mild delusions of parasitosis , which is to say I humor them to a point and give them something that is either supportive treatment or placebo as the situation dictates. I generally don't give them pimozide (which would be unwarranted in a dysmorphophobic patient). If they seem to have emotional problems they need to talk about I would consider sending them for counselling or psychiatric referral, but probably most of these folks won't take you up on that unless they really want to anyway. Mark Naylor, M.D. Fleishaker Assistant Professor for Dermatology Research Center for Molecular Medicine University of Oklahoma Health Sciences Center --------------------------------------------- Why would you say pimozide would be "unwarranted" in dysmorphophobia? In my view dysmorphophobia is a type of monosymptomatic delusion. This can be very disabling, and can lead patients to do or avoid doing things which can result in considerable financial, social and even physical harm. Pimozide works, and it is quite safe and effective, in particular at the low doses these folks tend to need [eg. 1-3 mg hs]. Risperdal can be used if pimozide is poorly tolerated. KC Smith MD FRCPC Niagara Falls ON ---------------- I agree that if someone is truly delusional in the sense that they are psychotic, then pimozide or other neuroleptics are indicated. If the delusion of parasitosis is really a "pseudodelusion" that is, just a gullible person who has been led to believe for one reason or another that microscopic insects or something like that is responsible for their atopic dermatitis, then I don't think these drugs are the appropriate treatment. The key test is whether they are truly delusional or simply misled in what they believe. If they are describing pink insects with their mother's face, then you could probably assume you are dealing with a real delusion. Most of the people that I see that believe they are infested with insects are in the latter category and are not truly delusional. Pimozide for these folks only exposes them to acute dystonic reactions and eventually, tardive dyskinesia which is much worse since it is generally a permanent neurologic sequelae. Most of the people that I see that have mild symptomatology of dysmorphophobia have some self-image problems or maybe are diagnosably neurotic, but are definitely not psychotic. For that reason, I wouldn't use pimozide unless it was a very severe case, and even then, only for a limited time (a few months). Respectfully, Mark Naylor, M.D. Fleishaker Assistant Professor for Dermatology Research Center for Molecular Medicine University of Oklahoma Health Sciences Center --------------------------------------------- For what my opinion is worth (about 2 cents on this issue) I would tend to agree with K. Smith: the vast majority of patients I have encountered to date clearly fit my, and my psychiatric consultants, definitions of psychosis. Indeed, the last two successive patients I dealt with were both emergently admitted to our psych unit for suicidal ideation driven by their conviction that these "bugs" were attacking their flesh. Digging deep ulcers in the skin goes beyond simple neurosis in my opinion. By the way, the two people I have heard speak on this who are very insightful are Caroline Koblenzer and John Koo, both with derm/psych training. Keep an eye out for them. Mark Ling, M.D., Ph.D. Emory University Department of Dermatology Clinical Pharmacology Unit Atlanta, GA ----------- ------- 4.17.96